Kmak, you were doing well there but then you appeared to get far too emotional and lost it. Now while you think David Wood is below you for what ever reason. Cast of characters. I look forward to your answer. I do not speak French, but I have watched this clip for Michel Onfray with Arabic subtitle. Why do you want Muslim to prove this, prove that? Christ did not teach that. When the vast majority of scholars don’t deny the existence of Muhammad(saw) but some random internet troll does, the rational thing to do is to go with the scholars. It was incitement, pure and simple and any normal person would say she is asking for it. One only has to look at “climate change” to see the trash that is coming out in “academic papers and journals”. 3(1)(a), 4(1)(a) and 4(1)(aa), amended by the Public Order (Unrestricted Area) (Amendment) Order 2009 (S 547/2009). Paul the Methodist. Egor: In the West we do not want to kill people…. I, in my life has no meaning position, see it as child abuse. Hatun is an extremist missionary who clearly wants to be martyred for her cause. A minor change was also introduced to the conditions for the use of Speakers' Corner – no banner, film, photograph, placard or poster containing any violent, lewd or obscene material may be displayed or exhibited whether before, during or after the event. Scholars are liars, says the random Islamophobe on the internet. The move drew some negative reactions from the public. Public Order (Unrestricted Area) Order 2009 (S 491/2009) ("2009 POA Order"). Maybe the French are waking up to your antics finally.. Maybe it is time for the British to do so. Answer this little quiz, Kmak should be easy for a man of your jurisprudence. The conditions that organizers and participants had to adhere to were broadly similar to those applying to speeches. 3(2)(c); 2009 POA Order, para. They either know what you’re saying is true or are too ignorant to care. There was a crowd of people there but I cant be certain it was the same time as she was speaking. Here is the footage. They were highly provocative while on their knees praying. So it gets back to whom was antagonising first of all. Why would they be knocking down Khadija’s alleged home. Either mentally unstable or malicious. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Who had a wife called Aisha? Is The Holy Spirit inside her? Contrary to police advice, he chose not to apply for a public entertainment licence, arguing he did not need one. Speakers' Corner is an area located within Hong Lim Park, Singapore, where citizens and permanent residents of Singapore may demonstrate, hold exhibitions and performances, and speak freely on most topics after prior registration on a government website. [70] On 31 May 2009, more than a hundred people attended a demonstration at Speakers' Corner organized by human rights advocacy group Maruah to call for Myanmar's military junta to release Aung San Suu Kyi. [33] In addition, it became possible to hold demonstrations provided that they are organized by Singapore citizens and the participants are only citizens and permanent residents. So she said belt me in the head and I shall be martyred and everyone will feel sorry for me. While Petra, with its earthquakes, could be most certainly referred to as a weeping valley. Sam, who is building sky scrapers in Mecca the most holiest of cities? By Paul Williams on October 25, 2020 • ( 72) Islamophobes were quick to blame Islam. Gosh my mistake. [6] During a Parliamentary debate on the issue on 25 April 2000, opposition Member of Parliament Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam asked the Minister for Home Affairs Wong Kan Seng whether this was a "mere show" or whether the Government was serious about promoting free speech in Singapore. Gee Sam, I thought Allah was God. The grounds for restrictions are, for freedom of speech, Singapore's security, friendly relations with other states, public order, public morality, protecting parliamentary privilege, defamation, contempt of court and incitement to any criminal offence;[4] and for freedom of assembly, public order only. No Paul, you still have a long way to go Mecca is not mentioned in the Quran. Maybe a wadi would be acceptable. Participants from Myanmar were requested to remain outside a cordoned-off area since only Singaporeans and permanent residents may attend demonstrations at Speakers' Corner. Where do you think the Quran came from? You are right that I have 0 interesting in watching David Wood videos, but that has nothing to do with the strength of my faith. Estimates of the number of people who attended ranged from 1,000 to 2,500 people. Please watch this clip in case you speak French. You can simply walk away. pic.twitter.com/I7w79G4NOB. This is false. Watch and learn, Kmak. Brother Paul, for that accurate summary you wrote below the heading, it should be a plaque or signpost or something at the entrance of SC. Paula Virany was the video editor of Speakers Corner. We are told he married Zaynab. Abdullah I appreciate your reply but you lose it at the end. [26], In 2002, exhibitions and performances were also permitted to be held at Speakers' Corner. When she countered them, one of them lashed out. They differed mainly in size (the “Large” Advent was a full-sized bookshelf speaker, like the AR-3 or KLH Five); the Smaller Advent was a bit larger and more expensive than the AR-4x, but still much trimmer than the larger Advent. This is not good for us, if you can’t take it walk it off, you are not doing any favours To yourself Come on, I hear one guy calling for a police in the video.And this brother looks black, hopefully they didn’t press any charges. This page was last edited on 18 November 2020, at 05:08. It is not going to happen. Well not as he has been sold to you. Islam claims it is the perfect religion. All the hadiths, you know the narratives like those found in Sahih Al-Bukari and Muslim were not put to paper until 240 years after Muhammad’s death. I attended speakers corner on 23.9.18 to give a speech on injustice. [74], A commemorative birthday memorial was organized for J.B. Jeyaretnam, the late leader of the opposition Reform Party, at Speakers' Corner on 5 January 2010. [2] The constitutional rights to free speech and assembly extend only to Singapore citizens. ( Log Out /  2008 PEMA Order, para. Truth: Notice the replys to this question offer no arguments as usual. Born 1939 – died 26 June 2020. Whether anyone will listen is of course another matter. It has to do with the fact that (1) I rely on peer reviewed journal articles and other ACADEMIC publications for knowledge, and (2) David Wood is a psychopath and an Islamophobe who gets paid specifically to produce garbage content. He went and learnt Arabic and starting reading the Quran. Khadija – the first mother – and Muhammad – the alleged last prophet. She serves no purpose in life other than to antagonize muslim members of our society in the most distasteful way. From my observation it was the hooded heckling heroes. 2) Order 2009 (S 585/2009). Your a bigger idiot than I thought if you can’t understand this is the outcome the French government wanted. provocateur of freedom of speech and exposer of the fake prophet Mohammad who foisted the biggest hoax on mankind and called it Islam. You don’t seem to get it. Jesus said do not lift a hand in my name. You see, I can discuss with an atheist Arab that mocking the prophet pubh is wrong by telling him ” imagine that I am mocking your dad”, I think he’d have a sense that this act is wrong. Forgetting about the first four caliphs as they never existed you have to go to the mid 8th century to the writing of the Hafs Quran. Hatun is therefore involved in her own attack. Egor claims there are no references to Muhammad prior to 698 CE. Why not go with the scholars. Ed. I explain why I have no sympathy for this woman. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. In the Islamic world that makes you a bit of a giant. Here is the footage. People at university began to ask him questions about Islam. The story of Speakers’ Corner may actually start over 800 years ago, in 1196, when the Tyburn Gallows were installed in Hyde Park near today’s location of Speakers’ Corner. A Positive Sports Experience for Everyone As a catalyst for a positive youth sports culture in all communities across the U.S., Positive Coaching Alliance provides research-based training and resources for coaches, parents, athletes and leaders to improve culture and ensure a positive youth development experience for ALL kids through sports. Rubbish. Speakers' Corner has been criticized as a token gesture, though others have pointed to its use by civil society activists as evidence that it has widened the political space in Singapore. But we all know just what Islam thinks of women, “Now one can put it down to evil on her part or mental illness. New ideas and old ones are analysed and critiqued to get a better understanding of both the idea and our position in relation to it. Ed. Obviously I condemn the attack on Hatun the fanatical Christian missionary. It is also a traditional place for rallies, protests, and marches to assemble or to end. She has brought this on herself: consciously, with forethought and foresight about what will happen. Now Gibson went a wide range of 7th Century mosques and guess what, all qiblas pointed to Petra. Also, I understand Islam and its goals better than you. Ha..ha..ha..are those the answers for my questions? [75] At the event, several opposition politicians shared with the public their experiences with Jeyaretnam. You are a person who has gone from being an East Anglian Methodist to being a Muhammadan revert and you are telling people she “wants to be martyred for the cause”. In fact, many academics know more about Islam and its history than Muslims on the whole do. 2008 PEMA Order, paras. You don’t understand politics and you sure don’t understand islam if you think killing innocent people for any reason is justifiable. Maybe it is Islam which is fraught with sickness. Then when I was looking at the weather in Australia, it was obvious they were going to have another La Nina this year. [46][47] As the choir did not wish to be split up in any way, it decided not to go ahead with the performance. Other conditions imposed were that speeches had to take place between 7:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m., and the use of sound amplification devices was prohibited. Speakers' Corner was turned into a … You don’t even dare answer my questions..LOL. Egor claims that all hadith are weak because they were put to paper later. Well what are you, Paul? You are an educated man and you are not stupid. I engaged him in conversation and learnt that though he is barred from joining Ukip he has recently been assisting anti-Islam candidate Anne Marie Waters… She has the courage to stand up and critique Islam in the face of Muslims who become violent whenever their religion is critiqued. 2008 PEMA Order, para. Therefore the scrutiny applied by academics in the West now is a great deal greater than then. New: Sex Matters - Islam and homosexuality, Why we should admit that the Qur'an is in conflict with modern science, A plea to Christians for moral consistency when rejecting Muhammad as a prophet of God, Twenty Arguments For The Existence Of God, How do we know God exists? In response to these free speech concerns, Speakers' Corner was created as local adaptation of the Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park, London, in 2000. When a theocracy makes that sort of claim then it is open to critique. 3(2) and 4(2); POA, s. 15(1). Finally, the Government bowed to popular pressure and passed a law granting the fundamental right of citizens to gather together to hear and be heard – and Speakers’ Corner was born. me man, me take no disrespec from der um woman innit. This is not a ‘free speech’ issue it is something else. Yet, this is not the position of contemporary academic hadith scholars like Gregor Schoeler and Andreas Goerke who have used the isnad-cum-matn analogy to establish the reliability of numerous hadith. [71], In July 2009, the police installed closed circuit television (CCTV) cameras for "safety and security". Likewise, it is not your fault that you have been lied to as have your parents and their parents over the centuries. Metropolitan Police officer nearly blinded at Speakers Corner today as Tommy Robinson speaks. [45] In January 2008, the Complaints Choir, a vocal group participating in the M1 Singapore Fringe Festival 2008, was denied the chance to perform at Speakers' Corner and other outdoor venues unless the six foreigners in the group of 50 did not participate in the performance. In contrast, some of Wood’s recent videos are ‘Why Muslims should be happy about Muhammad cartoons?’ and ‘Will the real Allah please stand up?’. Watch and learn, Kmak. You must be mistaking it with Mohammad and Islam. So Hatun was provocative and that is why she got hit in the head by a man in a hood. I believe I was one of the first to pull it apart and denounce it io You Tube about eight years ago. “Speakers’ Corner” What should it mean today? Hatun has every right, at Speakers Corner, to say what she wants. Gees mate you do it every Friday morning at the mosque. [72] Nevertheless, the surveillance cameras have not affected various events from being held. Relation to the rights to free speech and assembly. Speakers Corner: No speakers today! Where is your condemnation. This is *not* about free speech. What planet are you from? Islamic YouTuber Mohammed Hijab, who billed it as “the battle for Speakers’ Corner” on social media ahead of the demo, claims in a speech at the start of the video that it is Tommy Robinson and his supporters constantly engaged in violence and that the Muslim … Egor: Why wouldn’t scholars lie to you, Kmak? He saw Speakers' Corner as "playing the same role as envisaged – mostly dormant but good to have".[66]. So your argument for the existence of Muhammad is the narrative. I don’t agree with the attacker but noway he got a plan to attack Hatun on his head when he left home to speaker corner, that was a spontaneous reaction. So called experts predicting where we shall be in fifty years time. You are hypocrites. Ed. What he has is an ego and what he lacks is common sense. [22], Other conditions imposed on a speech at Speakers' Corner were that it had to take place only between 7:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. on the date notified by the person to the police,[23] had to be in any of Singapore's four official languages (English, Malay, Mandarin or Tamil) or any related dialects,[24] and the use of sound amplification devices was prohibited. Yeh right. You choose. In fact, it is every Islamic zealots worst nightmare. [60], In 2008, Speakers' Corner was the scene for meetings held over several weeks by Tan Kin Lian, former chief executive of insurance company NTUC Income, to advise people of their legal recourse after structured products they had purchased became virtually valueless upon the collapse of Lehman Brothers. As far as King vs Gibson. “Christians” who rape are by default not followers of Christ Jesus and shouldn’t call themselves Christians. He can do so in any place he wants, subject to the rules of the land. It was launched on 1 September 2000 by the Singapore Government as a venue for "free speech area" where speaking events could be held without the need to apply for a licence under the Public Entertainments Act (Cap. A narrative we know which has “Holes in It”.You have made your bed, so now you have to lie in it. To argue that life has no meaning in the West, where as Islam does, is like saying some people like meat and others do not. (English and French subtitles) Matching the right video, with the right buyers, fast. [69] Held every year since, the event was attended by 28,000 people in 2015. [7] In response, Wong said there was nothing to prevent Jeyaretnam from making a speech at Speakers' Corner, but that the public forum for a proper policy debate was in Parliament: It is not just a question of symbolism. Muhammad would be rolling over in his grave at your cowardice. [56] Events which adhere to the regulations are also not immune from other existing laws such as those relating to defamation and sedition. ..and Christ aligned his mind with God: Luke 22:42. The event attracted 4,000 participants. - See 312 traveler reviews, 134 candid photos, and great deals for London, UK, at Tripadvisor. ur, dur.. am not condoning what appened but er der it rightfully appened according to the title of my video. Hence, the Singapore Court of Appeal has held that non-citizens enjoy only common law free speech. Who had a wife called Zaynab? I dont know how she would of dealt with the daily beating, torture, rape of Bosnian women by christians 20 years ago if a simple slap shes been wanting for so long puts her into a come. What else can he do. The Saudis know it is rubbish because they know Mecca was not the original sanctity city. So I can come up with stuff that the average Muslim has no idea about what I am talking about. 257, 1985 Rev. Hatun was physically assaulted at Speakers’ Corner today. Both were 10” 2-way sealed speakers, using in-house designed and built drivers. If you asked me to justify the existence of Santa Claus, I think I would have a difficult time doing that. No topic is considered so sacred that it above criticism. Categories: Anti-Islam, Evil, Speakers' Corner. It was a sucker punch, hard and bone crushing. ( Log Out /  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatun. The biggest hoax on mankind is “God died by human” and it called Christian. 257, 2001 Rev. There is a great history behind the reason/ purpose of the corner and there are a few information panels which give a brief over view of its history . You’re so mixed up, I am amazed you can put two words together. He was telling his story and I felt so sad for him. Like most Turkish honorifics, it is used after the first name. Do you believe God exist? Ed.) You can hate and vilify who ever you want under your banner of Islam. While others like Jay Smith (I think he has a PHD as well), Dan Brubaker (I think he has a PHD as well), Dan Gibson, Mel and others are doing some exciting work on shattering the myth which is Islam.That my friend is your worst nightmare. Wonderful Selma, you sound like what you are. I was watching a young Muslim the other day. I do not think Jesus could have anybody’s wife if he fancied her like Muhammad could. In addition, rules on voice amplification were revised to allow the use of self-powered amplification devices like loudhailers from 9:00 a.m. to 10:30 p.m.[33][35] This relaxation of the rules potentially allows for speakers' messages to be heard by larger audiences. Speaking out at Speaker's Corner London (Photo by sebduggan under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike Licence) You are a victim of Islam as much as all of us are. ( Log Out /  [60] Its reception was mixed, however, and there have been a wide range of views and perspectives on the impact of Speakers' Corner in increasing the space for free speech and the freedom to assemble. I might ask what was he reading before or was he told about his life having meaning. He even went as far as to a mosque in China. Change ), Dr JDG Dunn, British New Testament scholar, Professor of Divinity at the University of Durham. Established as a site for execution possibly as early as 1108, the first actual record of an execution at Tyburn was in 1196. 3(1)(a). and in 2012 when Australia had its last La Nina, he announced Australia would not see the Warragamba Dam in Sydney ever full again. ( Log Out /  In his judgment, District Judge Kow Keng Siong emphasized the twin considerations of public order and national security in multi-racial and multi-religious Singapore, finding that Chee's speech had bred social unrest. Public Entertainments and Meetings (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) Order 2008 (S 426/2008) ("2008 PEMA Order"), para. This was what she wanted, she got it. Prove to me Muhammad existed without using the narrative and do my quiz. I wonder if those women praying in that Church were in the least provocative. Speakers corner is a beacon of free speech & freedom across the world. Public Entertainments Act (Cap. He was telling his audience how his fear of going to Hell and have Shaytan pour molten lead over his head scared him right through his childhood. 3(1) and 3(2)(a); 2009 POA Order, paras. She had an insulting cartoon of Muhammad and kept on putting it up next to her face and smiling. These restrictions made it a lengthy and difficult process to obtain the licence required to address a public gathering. She is cynically using useful idiots (liberals, secularists) for a very illiberal fundamentalist cause. The word Hatun or Khatun (“K” is silent in Turkish pronunciation) is as an honorific for a woman mainly since the Ottoman period (similar to the English word “Lady”). The change was effected by the Public Entertainments and Meetings (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) (Amendment No. The Left think they have a friend in Islam and Islam wants them to protect it while they are in the minority. And I earnestly hope her wish is frustrated. [67] The Party's secretary-general, Ken Sunn, said the event was to let Singaporeans "participate, speak and hear various views and opinions on the Singapore Government's 2009 Budget statement, and discuss ways to improve our Singapore Economy". Its origins, though, go back centuries. Kmam I am intrigued that a social scientist like yourself would get so angry and abusive over somebody putting forward a theory which perhaps counters yours. I admire her immensely. B&W Vintage Speakers. Speakers' Corner is in an open public space that serves as a thoroughfare from George Street to the Queensland University of Technology Gardens Point campus. That was when she pulled the cartoon and the holey Quran out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatun Surah 3.54. The attacker denied he was a Muslim said he is a Christian. Yet the Saudi’s let the chinese do a dig at the site of one of the drop off points (al-Serrian) for mecca for people on the hajj. Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, who was Prime Minister when Speakers' Corner was set up, expressed the view that its use had declined because there were now other avenues for people to express themselves such as the Internet (including the Government's online feedback portal Reach), newspapers, and radio and television channels. He may well have said this to the police in order to deflect public anger from other Muslims, but any man who is prepared to knock out a woman who says things he disagrees with is also likely to be a liar as well as a coward. This is not good for us. Does this look like a coincidence to you? There was a great mix of people, debating a range of topics. “We know Mecca did not exist until post 841 CE.”. Good one, Tim. Persons making speeches must use any of the four official languages of Singapore (English, Malay, Mandarin and Tamil) or related dialects, and organizers of demonstrations must be present throughout the event. The origins of Speakers' Corner as it is known today stem from 1866, when a meeting of the Reform League demanding the extension of the franchise, was suppressed by the Government. Your scholars are more aware that western academics can see through the preservation story/. Researchers have begun using the term to identify the history, presence, dimensions, intensity, causes, and consequences of anti-Islamic and anti-Muslim sentiments. She finally got what she wanted. I would be very surprised if you could say the same. From what I saw she was having a civil discussion with somebody when these heckling hooded heroes decided to inject their five cents worth in to the conversation. Islam should be critiqued. I am posting it in case you speak French. No Mecca then no Muhammad. It is not a totalitarian shariah hellhole. The large paved space includes the new statue of Brian Clough, the former manager of Derby County and Nottingham Forest, who forged ties between the two cities which were famous for loc… [42] Banners, films, flags, photographs, placards, posters, signs, writing or other visible representations or paraphernalia containing violent, lewd or obscene material must not be displayed or exhibited. 5. Islam may hold such a position in Muslim countries but not here in the West. Nor do I think Jesus was shagging his sex slaves like Muhammad. You come to the West then expect to face critique and criticism. In the West we do not want to kill people for simply putting forward a view we might not like. You can find vintage sound equipment in a range of colors, sizes, and styles. 15 of 2009) ("POA"). I said the first time Muhammad appears on a rock inscription was 698 CE. Do you really understand what you are saying? Actually, Mecca is mentioned in the Quran, which obviously dates from the lifetime of the prophet who we know died in AD632. She is deliberately provoking a response. Now everybody does. Egor: . If the latter, he asked if the Minister would agree to an open debate with the Workers' Party of Singapore outside Parliament. It is as shaky as a tin cup in an earthquake. To help personalise content, tailor and measure ads and provide a safer experience, we use cookies. [73] From 1 March 2012, Speakers' Corner was expanded to include an area behind Kreta Ayer NPP, near the junction of North Canal Road and South Bridge Road. Here is the footage. I am a social scientist by training (I have a PHD). Thousands of free speech enthusiasts, alongside a handful of hard-left and Islamist opposition, gathered at Speakers' Corner in London’s Hyde Park this afternoon to hear a speech written by Generation Identity’s Martin Sellner, delivered by former EDL leader Tommy Robinson. It came from the Bible probably the Old Testament as it is the most deplorable; the Torah and from the pagans. That is right, Jesus did not have sex slaves or any slaves for that matter. There are are nine different forms of deceit in Islam and I am sure this fits in there somewhere. Public Order Act 2009 (No. [14] Speakers had to be Singapore citizens,[15] as the Government was concerned that the venue should not be used by foreigners "to pursue their own agenda whether in respect of their own domestic issues, or those of other countries, including Singapore's". 2) Order 2009 (S 584/2009) and the Public Order (Unrestricted Area) (Amendment No. 15 of 2009) ("POA")). That is rather humorous as the father of Abd al Malik’s father, Caliph Marwan also had a mother Amina, a wife Zaynab and another wife Aisha. Thanks Abdullah You are correct BUT doesn’t it seem strange that you have both Bakkar and Makkar,.and only once or twice. A really devout Muslim. [11] In the first nine months, more than a thousand speeches were made. In the East they just believe what they are told just like kids being told about Santa Claus. While Muhammad the messenger of “the best of deceivers” said the hand, the mouth and the heart. Egor: Kmak Gees next year I may have a different point of view to what I have now – based on the available evidence that is being presented. Another extremist from Speakers’ Corner jailed today By bloggingtheologycom on December 16, 2019 • ( 0) Brexit activist who left former MP Anna Soubry afraid to travel alone in public jailed for harassment. ), now the Public Entertainments and Meetings Act (, Public Entertainments and Meetings (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) Order (, Miscellaneous Offences (Public Order and Nuisance) (Assemblies and Processions) Rules (. [12], Speakers' Corner was established by the issuance of the Public Entertainments (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) Order 2000,[13] which exempted people wishing to speak in Hong Lim Park from the need to apply for a licence under the Public Entertainments Act. Paul Williams the Great Deflector. I have never been an “East Anglian Methodist” LOLOL. 2008 PEMA Order, paras. You are a sheep and will continue to be so because you do not have the intelligence to question things which do not fit together historically. Such activities are heavily restricted in other parts of Singapore. The conditions under which addresses, debates, demonstrations, discussions, lectures and talks (whether or not together with any exhibition, performance, play-reading or recital), must be held have remained essentially unchanged. . The key fact here, is Islam goes with King. In addition, the organizer or an authorized agent had to be present at all times during the exhibition or performance,[27] the event could not contain violent, lewd or obscene messages,[28] no banners or placards could be carried by participants,[29] and the event could not be an assembly or procession for which a permit was required under the Miscellaneous Offences (Public Order and Nuisance) (Assemblies and Processions) Rules. 3(1)(c); 2009 POA Order, para. Baa Baa. Egor: Kmak What a stupid word. Our unique community gathers in Hyde Park every Sunday from about midday till long after dark. Hatun and David wood were not the first to destroy qurans, Uthman was if you believe the mythology. Speakers’ Corner is located in the North East corner of Hyde Park near Marble Arch tube station. Speakers and demonstration organizers must be Singapore citizens, while participants at demonstrations must be either citizens or permanent residents. In short, both you and Egor are full of $hit. A normal person would say that this kind of animalistic behaviour doesn’t belong here because it is a free democratic country, and speakers corner is where indigenous British people have been able to express their thoughts, unmolested, for centuries! Clearly the source of this religion is Satan… what is good about this copy and corrupt paste faith that gives birth to IslamoFascists? PERLESMITH Speaker Stands Extend 30-45 Inch with Upgraded Cable Management, Hold Satellite, Small Bookshelf & Bluetooth Speakers up to 8lbs(i.e. [76], In September 2010, Today newspaper reported that statistics from the National Parks Board indicated that the number of groups registering to stage events at Speakers' Corner had fallen from 39 between September 2008 and August 2009, to nine between September 2009 and August 2010. [49], Crucially, events held at Speakers' Corner must not deal with any matter that relates directly or indirectly to any religious belief or to religion generally, or which may cause feelings of enmity, hatred, ill-will or hostility between different racial or religious groups in Singapore. You will notice I have been polite to you and your PHD in the Social Sciences. [32] To provide greater convenience, the National Parks Board made it possible for people to register online at its website. Dis woman is der trash she no do as commanded by man, “It was provocative and insulting. We know Mecca did not exist until post 841 CE. You won’t watch it because your faith is not strong enough already. Sam, did Muhammad, at the time of his death, believe that Allah had cut his aorta? Egor: Why not go with the scholars. ), now the Public Entertainments and Meetings Act (Cap. I mean nobody can counter a hooded heckling hero with out expecting a slap in the head. But according to David Shapcott, some random idiot on the internet, Hatun is courageous because she is a Islamophobic a$$hole. That Muslims had been lied to for centuries. Kmak What a stupid word. What are you going to do when the story becomes unstuck as appears to be happening? The fear is real and Islam is a threat to the rest of the world. The source of this claim is a non-scholar called Dan Gibson. [59], In his 2008 National Day Rally speech, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong indicated that the purpose behind various government policies, including the creation of Speakers' Corner, was to "liberalise our society, to widen the space for expression and participation". 1, 2006 Rev. ("PEMA"). Islam is a fantasy which wants the total subjugation of the world under Islam. Gees Sam you worship Muhammad more than you worship, Allah. Speakers Corner: An oral history. Again, you’re some random idiot on the internet. Обратите внимание, что если вам не исполнилось 18 лет, вы не сможете получить доступ к этому сайту. I have known about speakers corner for a long time but had never been able to go during previous visits to London . It was provocative and insulting. That was not freedom of speech but freedom of hates. Well that is a convincing argument. Since the launch, a stone plaque and cast iron… French Islamophobes fear that Muslims will “take over the country.”, The place for respectful discussion and debate – click here, NEW: The Doctrine of the Trinity and the Unity of God: a Critique. [36], In the first month after public demonstrations were permitted at Speakers' Corner, 11 out of the 31 applications received were indicated as being public protests. The same goes for all you so called Muslims on this blog. He has degrees coming out of his arm pits. She is out of line, but its not okay to punch her. but as soon as somebody does it to you, you either want to kill them or simply run to mummy. I am sorry to tell you the papers you are reading are being produced by the Tim Flannery types’ of Islam In other words they will be playing on the Islamic court and no where else. [10] The park's proximity to the Kreta Ayer Neighbourhood Police Post (NPP) also made it convenient for people to register to speak at the venue. Islamophobe. Wonder why people are calling her (just) Hatun. Speakers' Corner in London is well known as the home of free speech, where anyone can get on their soapbox and make their voice heard. You will notice that they refer to the fact that King has a PHD and Gibson doesn’t therefore on that basis alone, King is more reliable. The designated space occupied a new landscaped extension to the city's Old Market Square, at the junction of King Street and Queen Street. [16] They also had to register their intention to speak with a police officer at the Kreta Ayer NPP any time within 30 days before the public speaking,[17] although there was no need to inform the police of the topic of the proposed speech. People are saying now that Mecca was found to the south of Ur close to the ancient city of Hira. Hope you get a taste of that one day so you can have pity on yourself, and “pretend” to go into a coma. It seem like I am forced to call her on Skype and destroy her and I will show her that I’m greater than her afterwards, I will destroy her. 3(1)(c). We license premium user generated video to media publishers, producers, brands, and creatives around the world. So he tried so hard to earn Allah’s blessing. Muhammad exists only if Mecca existed. Abdal-Hakim Murad Art Beauty Bible Biblical scholarship Books Christian extremism Christianity Extremism God Hadith History Homosexuality Islam Islamophobia Judaism Life in the West London Missionaries News Politics Quotation Quran Recommended Reading Science Silly Speakers Corner Terrorism Utterly idiotic Wisdom [54] The penalty for displaying anything violent, lewd or obscene at a demonstration is a fine not exceeding $3,000 or, on a subsequent conviction, $5,000. But this is not normal behaviour. I explain why I have no sympathy for this woman. Amy Dalla Mura was well known at Speakers’ Corner as “bacon lady”. On the same day, the Public Order (Unrestricted Area) Order 2009 ("2009 POA Order")[40] made pursuant to the Act declared that Speakers' Corner was an unrestricted area in which assemblies and processions could be held without the need for a police permit. Egor: Prove to me Muhammad existed without using the narrative and do my quiz. Why won’t the Saudis allow archaeologists dig around Mecca? It simply doesn’t matter what your opinions on the origins of Islam are. A true hero. But Hatun was not an innocent victim. There is free speech all the time. I think it was either one or nil. ‘In recent years, Islamophobia has evolved from a primarily political concept toward one increasingly deployed for analytical purposes. If Islam is the reall reason for life then the world is not a place I want to be in the future. You cannot convince me they are anything but idols. The first official Speakers' Corner outside London opened in Nottingham in 2009. What is good about this copy of copy.. of copy..of copy..of copy…of copy..of copy..of copy..of copy and corrupt paste faith that gives birth to Christian Pagan who worshiping a 100% human? Do you believe Jesus exist? Any hints my friend? Courage is moral strength in the face of danger. That is 66 years after his alleged death. Congratulations for claiming your a historian and feeling good in that moment, but that moment has passed and reality is your not a honest man. Nobody likes to be in the company of a person with a mental health disorder who is also a religious extremist. 4(1)(c). Muslim scholars know this today. Marches and protests had long convened or terminated their routes in Hyde Park, often at Speakers' Corner itself. Events can now be held around the clock, and self-powered amplification devices like loudhailers may be used between 9:00 a.m. and 10:30 p.m. At present, Speakers' Corner is concurrently regulated by the Parks and Trees Regulations (Cap. That’s because there’s nothing original about Egor’s claims. Public Order (Unrestricted Area) Order 2009 (S 491/2009) ("2009 POA Order"), in force on 9 October 2009. Sole free speech zone in Hong Lim Park, Singapore. I would bet an onion to a snowflake he knows a great deal more about your religion than you do. [21] As a result of the incident, Chee was barred from contesting the 2006 general elections. She was being deliberately provocative. No normal person would excuse assaulting a frail woman for such a pathetic reason. [48] Queried on the matter in Parliament, the Minister for Communication, Information and the Arts Dr. Lee Boon Yang stated that the Government did not think it "desirable or good precedent" for "foreigners [to come] here to organise and to lead Singaporeans to complain about our domestic issues". biatches best know der place innit. You want freedom of speech but only under your terms. Defenders of Hatun are being very naive. The fear is real and Islam is a threat to the rest of the world. . You even sound a little fragile at times. I guess those three people in Notre Dame were asking for it as well, Truth. Why because he denoucnes the Petra theory. Gees Egor, do you believe God died by human? Islamophobe. You don’t like how we live our lives then leave. we both know that King has come out and attacked Gibson’s findings. Gibson’s claim has been thoroughly debunked by David King. Chee's speech sparked heated exchanges involving the Sikh practice of wearing turbans. by RichardInLondon Follow. Kmak Gees next year I may have a different point of view to what I have now – based on the available evidence that is being presented . [8], Speakers' Corner was launched on 1 September 2000[9] at Hong Lim Park, a historical venue for political speeches and rallies. Clearly the source of this religion is Pagan. Now you are saying those three innocent people slaughtered by an Islamic coward is what France wanted. ), the Public Entertainments and Meetings (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) (No. The question is why didn’t she turn the other cheek? Suboor & Visitors | Speakers Corner | Scdawah ChannelHashim's Back! This is no where near where Mecca is today. Where people cannot debate they label, just like you are doing. I passed by speakers corner today with friends, I didnt realise PP was there! You are the know all so please where can I find one. Very easily done. Kmak you can say what you want about the existence of Mecca but we know and the Saudi’s know it is tripe. Home › Anti-Islam › Hatun was physically assaulted at Speakers’ Corner today. In Australia there is this bloke Tim Flannery. So I have no sympathy for her. 2008 PEMA Order, para. It is the oldest living free speech platform in the world. When we give him an answer, stay here to listen. Do not run away from it. They are on such shaky ground now they will lean towards anybody who supports the fairy tale. Muhammad was obviously a man of the people. He started seeing what it was really all about. Will be returning school. [77] The event has been held every year since, with the event moved to the Fountain of Wealth in Suntec City in 2016. 3(1)(d) and 4(1)(d). I don’t know. At Speakers' Corner today I bumped into notorious far-right activist Jack Buckby. Former Nominated Member of Parliament Siew Kum Hong felt that the installation of CCTV cameras was "pretty ridiculous", and wondered if the move might feed the perception in some quarters that Singapore is a police state, since Speakers' Corner is "the one place in Singapore" where people can demonstrate. Love your enemy is just BS! If he doesn’t he loses all credibility. What do you want my friend? Bekkah is mentioned. Public Entertainments (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) Order 2000 (S 364/2000) ("2000 PEA Order"). The first time Muhammad’s name comes up in rock inscriptions is not until 698 CE. 216, Rg. [66] On 23 January 2009 during an event at Speakers' Corner, the National Solidarity Party gave its views on the national budget one day after it was announced, criticizing the Government for not doing enough to assist unemployed breadwinners during the recession. Speakers Corner is a leading speaker bureau, working with the world's top motivational speakers, conference facilitators, after dinner, keynote speakers and mor ... so please contact us today with your objectives and we’ll be delighted to provide a selection of inspirational speakers for you to consider. I do not have an irrational fear of Islam. In a 1999 interview with New York Times columnist William Safire, the Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong said the idea had first been suggested by the Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew, but Goh felt that it was not yet the right time to set it up. But how can I do that with a person who doesn’t see any meaing and sacrcy about his parents? While in Islām there’s a heavenly reference, there’s no such a thing in the west of post modernism. He was a Pakistani and a devout Muslim. The whole Mecca, Muhammad story is concocted in the 8th 9th and 10th century. Public Entertainments and Meetings (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) Order 2008 (S 426/2008) ("2008 PEMA Order"). What he found were things in the Quran which did not make sense. https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/48/24/. 2) Order 2011 (S 493/2011) (issued under the PEMA) and the Public Order (Unrestricted Area) (No. It was Petra. The story behind the groundbreaking local media phenomenon that transformed the corner of Queen and John into the world’s first YouTube. And he can do so right here. By the Public Entertainments and Meetings (Speakers' Corner) (Exemption) (Amendment) Order 2012 (S 80/2012) and the Public Order (Unrestricted Area) (Amendment) Order 2012 (S 81/2012). Article 14(2)(a) provides that Parliament may by law restrict the right to free speech to protect, among other things, Singapore's security and public order, and to prevent incitement to any criminal offence. [18], On 15 February 2002, while at Speakers' Corner, Singapore Democratic Party chief Chee Soon Juan attacked the Government's decision to suspend four Muslim girls for wearing the tudung (Islamic headscarf) to public schools. She wanted it to be seen by Muslims (who else?). It’s not good for either party, we will be keep burning bridges. Courage according to Aristotle: Aristotle recognized courage as the virtue at the mean between rashness and cowardice. Sean Anthony, Professor of Islamic Studies at Ohio University, shows in his book, Muhammad and the Empires of Faith, that Muhammad is mentioned by name in non-Muslim sources as early 637 CE. On 30 November 2013, the first public rally by the special needs community in Singapore, called The Purple Parade, was held. Speakers Corner Lichfield was launched in 2009 with the support of the Speakers' Corner Trust. [16] However, speakers were not permitted to deal with any matter which related either directly or indirectly to any religious belief or to religion generally, or which might cause feelings of enmity, hatred, ill-will or hostility between different racial or religious groups in Singapore. The applicable conditions have remained essentially unchanged. It was incitement, pure and simple and any normal person would say she is asking for it.” – No. However, the PEMA and POA, which require permits to be obtained before public meetings and assemblies can be held, were enacted pursuant to exceptions to these rights. 3(1)(b) and 3(2)(d); 2009 POA Order, paras. Truth be known, PHDs are a dime a dozen now days but I do applaud you on your academic achievement. Articles 14(1)(a) and (b) of the Constitution of Singapore respectively guarantee freedom of speech and expression and freedom of assembly to Singapore citizens. Courage most demands our respect when it incurs risk without selfish motivation. As Speakers' Corner was intended to increase avenues available for the exercise of free speech, the pieces of subsidiary legislation regulating the venue were issued to provide that public speaking and demonstrations there are not subject to the PEMA and POA if the conditions specified in the subsidiary legislation are complied with. It is symbolism in the sense that, yes, if you want a place, there is a place. In the old days the West was not concerned about Islam. However, it was necessary for people to register their intention to speak at the venue with a police officer at the Kreta Ayer Neighbourhood Police Post any time within 30 days before the event, though there was no requirement for the police to be informed of the topic of the proposed speech. This view is shared by Professor Bilveer Singh, a political science analyst at the National University of Singapore, who has pointed to large turnouts at events organized at Speakers' Corner as evidence that Singaporeans are "not fearful and not politically apathetic. It was on that pathway that he lost Your meaning of life. … Courage is a virtue when we choose to do good, especially when that is most difficult. Speakers and demonstration organizers must be Singapore citizens, while participants in demonstrations must be either citizens or permanent residents. Currently the dam is sitting at 97%. How many 7th Century mosques did King go to? Today Speakers' Corner is a site for events and activities, as well as a destination for all the community to visit and have their say on topics close to their hearts. The so called Islamic way of life was a lie. The police said that the cameras complemented the presence of their officers on the ground and did not record audio inputs. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. B&W has been producing speakers and other forms of audio equipment since 1966. When Maccron said “Islām is experiencing a crisis with all the world” = Islām is the only thing that retains the meaning for this life, so no wonder that there’s a crisis between a world with no meaning and a world full of meaning. So now you are a slingshot for the Muslim narrative. He was no longer a sheep being forced fed. I believe I was one of the first to pull it apart and denounce it io You Tube about eight years ago. The major difference between the two, is that Santa Claus is a fantasy which brings pleasure to young kids. We know scribes manipulated the text and they needed Mecca mentioned as it was the sanctuary We both know that to change the B to an M and all you have to do is add a loop at the bottom. Why is there no "historical criticism" of the Qur'an as there is of the Bible? That is how we do things in The West. Also, the problem is the with the authorization and references. "[52], The government has also shown itself to be sensitive to calls for greater liberalisation on the ground, with Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong acknowledging incremental changes to the rules and regulations at Speakers' Corner to be necessary for "more citizens to engage in debate" and to "progressively open up our system even more". Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. That is 109 years after Muhammad’s alleged death. Check out both letters my friend. Peter Bradley describes a British initiative promoting free expression, public debate and active citizenship. 2008 PEMA Order, paras. These are Muslims talking…You won’t watch it because your faith is not strong enough already. I explain why I have no sympathy for this woman. Sickness,,given what I have provided you with, is a state of mind. The Left, poor little snowflakes that they are, believe in labelling everybody who does not agree with them Islam is now doing he same. Either mentally unstable or malicious. He decided to leave Islam. But I can see why Islam lean towards King. You are also right that I am an educated man. That is 109 years after Muhammad’s alleged death. [61] This is reflected in the relative lack of progress towards liberalization in other areas such as awards of high damages in libel lawsuits brought by politicians which has been said to have a chilling effect on political speech in Singapore. The number of individuals registering dropped from 102 to 57 during the same periods. Take it from a scholar, you and Wood are full of $hit. [5] The following year, the Government decided to go ahead despite its fear of potential public disorder, as the idea enjoyed widespread support from the public and civil society groups. Conditions for the use of Speakers' Corner were further liberalized in 2008. Everyone with a camera should just ignore her and stop exploiting her sickness, It is not the fault of Hatun that the preservation narrative in Islam is full of holes. It is an attempt to engineer and manipulate the emotions of some volatile Muslims to strike back verbally or physically. With effect from 1 December 2009, the size of Speakers' Corner was reduced so that it only occupies the half of Hong Lim Park nearer New Bridge Road. in the Quran. Responsibility for registering people wishing to speak or stage an exhibition or performance was taken over by the Commissioner of Parks and Recreation, and online registration was introduced. In 2010, a Speakers' Corner was established to acknowledge this history and encourage peaceful gatherings in that area. Some of their older offerings are now considered to be vintage, including items like standalone speakers, floor speakers, desk speakers, and wall-mounted speakers. I've never had the pleasure of meeting this gentleman before but I recognised him instantly from his media appearances. [19] In July, Chee was convicted and fined S$3,000 for speaking without the required licence. Please update this article to reflect recent events or newly available information. But she actually knew the man in the hood as he was a Christian. Remember what Bilal Phillips said they will leave in avalanches and tsunamis. Is it just me or is there a difference there, Sam? No doubt you have come out and condemned the his behaviour. You are some random idiot on the internet. Is that what some of you Muslims are suggesting? Of course, we have a place to show. I think Tim was off the mark on that one and he was or is an expert. Everything you said is so bland and reeks of unreliable sources. Also, people might feel that the venue is not always the best place "to meaningfully and constructively press their views on issues". [34] As the time period restriction was lifted, events can now be held around the clock. [68] The first public rally by the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community in Singapore, called Pink Dot SG, was held on 16 May 2009. I mean what a ballsy effort. If yes then it was The Demon Spirit. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. 2009 POA Order, paras. Sam, I do not think Jesus was getting his kicks on route 66 like Muhammad was. Notice the replys to this question offer no arguments as usual. You choose. It is all self evident if you look. In 2002, exhibitions and performances were permitted to be held at Speakers' Corner. I am sorry but the narrative has holes in it as Yasir Qadhi said. We are told he married Aisha. You have to be kidding me. Even satan worshiping One God Alone not a human. [65] Although Dr. Kenneth Paul Tan, Assistant Dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, has noted that initial cynicism was inevitable as Speakers' Corner was a top-down initiative, he recognizes that civil society activists have since actively occupied and made use of Speakers' Corner to generate public interest in various social and political issues. Paul, I guess you are the mouth while our hooded friend was the hand. She is a troublemaker who is trying to provoke a violent response and she is achieving it. What does this tell you? The home that Muhammad allegedly lived in? In short, Islamophobia is an emerging comparative concept in the social sciences’ (Erik Bleich, ,2016, Defining and Researching Islamophobes). 3(1)(b) and 4(1)(b). Speakers' Corner is an area located within Hong Lim Park, Singapore, where citizens and permanent residents of Singapore may demonstrate, hold exhibitions and performances, and speak freely on most topics after prior registration on a government website. That is what she is strategizing to achieve. Home › Anti-Islam › Hatun was physically assaulted at Speakers’ Corner today. This is indeed a real problem in the world of post-modernism. Why wouldn’t scholars lie to you, Kmak? Well the first thing i see as an historian, is that all hadiths would have to be considered weak and that includes all those in the Sunnah. Says it all doesnt it? When I open, for instance, the latest issue of the Journal of Quranic studies, I see articles such as ‘Conflict and Conciliation in the Meccan and Median Quran’ and ‘Towards and Abrahamic Religion: Developments in Later Meccan Surahs’. Egor, I am (not) sorry to break it to you, but Makkah is mentioned in Qur’ān by the name ( Makkah). It appears to me everything that happens in the world is not the fault of Islam and you are the true victims. They have been lying to you for centuries so why not stay in the river of lies. By Paul Williams on October 25, 2020 • ( 72 ). There’s absence of meaning and sacracy. [62] Former Workers' Party member James Gomez has also expressed concerns about the effectiveness of the Speakers' Corner as a site of vibrant political debate, citing the lack of a "culture of speaking" amongst Singaporeans.