Die Redaktion hat im großen Kiss the elder Vergleich uns jene genialsten Artikel verglichen sowie alle nötigen Eigenschaften gegeneinander. I’ve always liked the album but the movie, the podcasts the fanficton comic books. Here are what seem to be the three major problems with this album: 1 - It’s not what Kiss fans expected. And then, it all comes back to me. We may not mean it literally, as we have been known to spin some Chic or P-Funk on occasion, it's more of a rallying cry for rock fans everywhere. The chorus has a choir thrown in for good measure. Kiss the elder - Alle Auswahl unter der Menge an verglichenenKiss the elder . Wade Babineau: Ahh… The Elder. Informationen zum Album (Music From) The Elder (1981) von KISS × MS.de. It isn’t their worst album. Fortunately, The Oath comes to the rescue, with Paul on one of those horses from Odyssey, galloping fearlessly into battle, wooden sword in hand... or laser rifle... Where are we again? I tried to do that. The album was intended to be the soundtrack to a movie - a movie which, due to the relative commercial failure of the album, was never made.We are now going to attempt to shoot this movie, Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley Paul Stanley Bob Ezrin Fan reaction to the album was equally harsh, while critical reaction was comparably positive. It did go to #57 on the Billboard charts. Some of the songs could have been classics if the pompous and/or hard-to-decipher lyrics were replaced, such as The Oath, Only You, I, and Just a Boy." For his part, Simmons is still embarrassed by the whole fiasco. Leave a review. Kiss fans will buy any old tat won't they?!?!? This is likely the intention based on the subject matter, but once again, this doesn’t really seem to satisfy what should make a Kiss album. Kiss in all their make up but with short hair, Mark Knopfler head bands and the most camp costumes. You have to give credit to Eric Carr here for playing the drums very close to how Peter Criss would have played the song, if Criss could play drums properly to begin with. (AllMusic), "What could be less promising at this stage of the game than a concept album by Kiss? The Oath I did the review of the original format I had when I was a kid so you could understand what the public got back in the day. I even kind of liked Just A Boy. Under the Rose again sounds nothing like Kiss. The opening riff in the Gene Simmons number Only You is mildly hypnotic and supports the spacey vocals really well. The song gets a little heavier and Paul sings in more falsetto and is all completely strange. Then comes the bass heavy, dark and actually awful song “Mr. Oh wait, he's the Spaceman. A tour for this record would have been interesting. Great stuff at digging out the KISS facts and incorporating them into this post. On a positive note, A World Without Heroes is a great song but the rest of the album, besides a few cool riffs, is incredibly stupid and Kiss were trying too hard for a style of music they do not understand or suit. On the acoustic guitar is Eric Carr (and drums). I The band had to do something drastic, something big, something artistic. Odyssey, especially grates on me lyrically. Then again, other than Creatures of the Night, and their early stuff, I think that applies to most Kiss albums. What I like about this song is actually two things. Only You starts with a riff and then the bass kicks in. Elder came on the heels of the KISS disco superfreaks, Dynasty and Unmasked; people believed KISS had committed to that boppy road. It is a high energy track that rocks out and is the big chance for Eric to shine and be front and center. Music From The Elder has grown on me a lot since I first heard it back in 1986. Receive mail from us on behalf of our trusted partners or sponsors? The fans hate it. When browsing through the available titles on NetGalley's website, was there reallly any chance that I'd see this: Very interest. There are redeeming moments and perhaps if some of Ezrin’s production was stripped back and more focus on the plot it could have been a decent themed record, but it’s a bit over the map and suffers a bit from Gene’s grandiose plans for a movie to be made. I don’t like the fact that the group have pretty much disowned it when there are songs that are very good on it. Unser Team hat verschiedenste Hersteller ausführlichst analysiert und wir zeigen Ihnen hier die Ergebnisse unseres Vergleichs. That said, while there are a few half decent tracks there’s nothing I’m tempted to add to my ‘bit of everything’ playlist and it’s not likely I’d listen to the album again by choice. it just wasn't a "Kiss" album. It was such a mish-mash of songs and most didn’t sound anything like Kiss. However, Styx were delivering what fans expected: I gather Kiss were not... James Praesto: If you just listen to this album without context, as I am sure most people not familiar with Kiss will do (and understandably so), you will probably scratch your head and wonder what the fuck they were snorting when they recorded this. and we get to Escape From The Island. Music From “The Elder” was an art-rock concept album based on a fantasy tale written by Simmons and conceived as the soundtrack to a Hollywood blockbuster. it’s not bad but I can understand why Kiss fans were confused, this sounds more like a Blue Oyster Cult album track. No, it isn’t half bad (okay, half of it is bad, but the other half not so much). I think the remastered version has the correct story order and I believe anything since, but the early versions all were the old order. They quickly washed their hands of it, replaced Ace Frehley with Vinnie Vincent, and started on their journey writing reasonably competent 80s metal radio staples. “There’s just no other way to look at it.”. But listening to it out of context and not as a part of the Kiss canon, it isn’t terrible. Not a duffer in my book but I can see how it might have caused a bit of head scratching back in the day. In conjunction with their month-long NovElder retrospective, KISS FAQ has issued an interview with Manhattan Model Shop's Bill Finneran, who discusses the creative process and construction of the door prop used for the album cover for KISS’ 1981 Music From The Elder… And someone actually did so I will review that book later, but here we are going to get the condensed version. Gene Simmons and actually Lou Reed…yes, that Lou Reed. When they recorded the video for “A World Without Heroes”, the went ahead and did another one. This is song #10 and it is called “Odyssey”. The album marked a substantial departure from their previous output with its concept and orchestral elements. Dark Light is Ace Frehley at his very best – perfect vocals for this song, with a great riff, that could have been the best track on his solo album a couple of years earlier. “We were convinced that we were making our Sgt. “Dark Light” was actually based off a guitar riff written by Anton Fig and the demo was called “Don’t Run”. But Kiss wasn’t exactly that band. It is that order change, that we will discuss because the album I have has the original track listing issued which was arranged by the label. I'm not a die-hard Kiss fan, but I do own their catalog and enjoy each release. Eric Mehta: It rates a ten for me, however at the time I had the 'what the hell is this?' Yeah, sure. Kiss the elder - Unser Gewinner . Regardless of it being Kiss. “On a mountain high, somewhere / Where only heroes dare / Stand the stallion and the mare”. The song goes straight into “Under the Rose” which is another Gene song and is actually done the same way if you sequenced the album in the original format. Do you like this album? Receive news and offers from our other brands? Dark Light – Ace Frehley on vocals gives this a slightly Lou Reed sort of vibe. Things were crumbling and the Kiss train was about to come to the end of its tracks…or was it. It is full of orchestration and much…welll…fanfare. Despite their geekiness, some tracks like I and Under the Rose have some really great licks in them. Worse, shortly before the album was released in November 1981, the track sequence was altered, rendering an already garbled storyline incomprehensible. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Music from the Elder at Amazon.com. Why???? Kiss the elder - Die Produkte unter der Vielzahl an Kiss the elder! Songs like Just A Boy, Odyssey, Only You, Under The Rose and A World Without Heroes still get me to this day. Apparently Mr. Blackwell is feeling well and honestly, if you are listening to this version of the track sequence, you have no idea who Mr. Blackwell is anyway. Several listens later via vinyl, cassette tape, and four CD versions (1st run, mid 90s remasters, Japan remaster, and a Russian version), I enjoyed it more with each listen. Unsere Redaktion wünscht Ihnen zuhause nun viel Vergnügen mit Ihrem Kiss the elder! Jim Kanavy: I became a Kiss fan in the 80s and even by mid 80s like 86/87 this was fairly hard to find. Escape From the Island Lyrics: 8. It is succinct enough to follow…The basic plot of “The Elder” involves the recruitment and training of a young hero (The Boy) by the Council of Elders who belong to the Order of the Rose, a mysterious group dedicated to combating evil. Under the Rose Lyrics: 4. It wasn't great but I didn't see why there was so much hate for it. I ended up ordering the cassette through a local record shop. I heard The Oath on the 12” single of Forever (I think) and was desperate to hear the rest of it. You know how people sometimes ask, “What point in history would you go back to, if you could visit any event?” I would travel back to the exact moment Kiss played this song to the label guys at Casablanca. Kiss Unmasked, released in the summer of 1980, was recorded with session drummer Anton Fig; Criss' permanent replacement, Eric Carr, joined the band in time for their 1980 world tour. The first eight albums are part of my musical DNA. Musical themes from Just a Boy are revisited to lend some credence to the idea of this album being a cohesive piece of rock operatics. I could go on and on about what went on behind the scenes, in fact, you could write a book about it. It’s more ELO on some songs. You can’t blame a band for trying something different, especially when the current thing ain’t working. If Andrew Lloyd Webber could make millions, on cats singing show tunes, and The Who could puzzle together two rock operas… why not Kiss? The Boy is guided by an elderly caretaker named Morpheus. A sad and useless thing… Gene dons the big number regalia-dress and stands alone on centre stage; a single spotlight creating a haunting visual. Why should he go to hell? Nobody but me likes Odyssey!! David Heaton: A very good album. Find album reviews, stream songs, credits and award information for Music from "The Elder" - Kiss on AllMusic - 1981 - By the end of 1980, Kiss knew that their next… I is an anthem on par with many anthems written by them, but I would have preferred a guitar solo to the breakdown - are those handclaps, or what? And when they started drifting musically, my good old uncle gave me all of his Kiss albums. (Metal Insider). Kiss started recording for a new album and this album was going to get back to the hard rock roots of the band, however, things started to change. The album’s lyrics describe the boy’s feelings during his journey and training, as he overcomes his early doubts to become confident and self-assured. With the tempo changes in it, it is well composed but can’t really understand everything being said and the artistry that was meant is lost on me. And here we are today. If you haven’t heard it in awhile, check it out and spend some time with it and I think you might change your mind. Ace sounds like Ace on Dark Light. Well, The Elder was the band’s ambitious foray into art rock, wishing to create something that would finally give them their Sgt Pepper moment with the critics (because the critics were… mean). I discovered during the junior high school years that other music fans did not share my enthusiasm towards the pop direction the group was headed. MUSIC FROM THE ELDER: Explaining the KISS Album Everyone Hates. I’m down, First of all, this line made me laugh out loud and I’m still smiling: “Apparently Mr. Blackwell is feeling well.” Yep that’s about as much as I get out of some of these lyrics too, especially when played in that incorrect running order. Kiss Articles and Media. The one with the Demon singing a ballad about a world without heroes. Only You Lyrics: 3. Het is het eerste album zonder Peter Criss, en met Eric Carr.. Er zijn drie singles van uitgebracht: A World Without Heroes, I en The Oath. I understand more of their mindset, but still just an average, okay album. They sound like Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons songs, but they don’t make you want to get up and dance or rock out. They turned it in to this song to fit the story. The Oath sounds like one of those killer heavy tunes they’d churn out on Creatures, but then the chorus (is that a chorus?) They brought in the American Symphony Orchestra and St. Robert’s Choir to record parts, they brought in actors to record voice-overs, they tried everything and experimented with so many styles and sounds. I’m Impressed! I also really liked I and The Oath, both providing that classic Kiss sound! Delete “Mr. I give them kudos for trying to do something different as I think all bands need to shake it up a bit. Maybe you have taste and everyone else doesn’t. If they were to deviate at all, it would be back into the oncoming truck of heavy metal. Just A Boy Mike Knoop: I like Kiss a lot. I think I liked it more when I thought it was a movie soundtrack. A fair review John. The best moments of the album are Ace Frehley’s contributions with the slamming Dark Light and rock-out instrumental Escape From The Island, which is especially discerning when you hear the stories about how Stanley and Simmons out-voted Frehley on most album-based decisions. You might have been made for loving me, but the feeling is not mutual. A fun fact, there was actually a music video recorded for this song but never saw the light of the day. On first listen I knew it was kind of weird, but I still really enjoyed it. Hallo und Herzlich Willkommen hier. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. This isn’t the first or last time that a band shifted gears and the fans didn’t climb aboard. Even the cover mysteriously references Music From…, as if you missed some “straight to VHS”-movie in the vein of Dark Crystal or Krull that this was the faithful soundtrack companion to. It doesn’t sound like Ace is on lead, but he does play bass actually. Change can be good and bands need to evolve, but it’s a hard ask for fans of a party-pop rock band to suddenly accept a fantasy-themed progressive concept album. It wouldn’t be a Kiss album (or whatever this is), if we didn’t get one of Gene’s Hey-Hey-Fat-Albert songs. A sci-fi/fantasy concept was as far away from Kiss's comfort zone as it's possible to get. It bores me, but yes, the bass is nasty…I will give you that. By doing it this way, you completely lose sight of the concept album as now it is just an album with no storyline in proper order to follow (not that you could follow it anyway). To me it's an album recorded by a band who've totally lost their identity & have no clue where to go next, led by a coked up producer who just happened to … Kiss were all about (to quote one of Paul Stanley's old stage raps) what was in your jeans rather than your genes. That is all I can come up with (Ha!!). There is a lot to like here and I will come back often. Pepper’s… Instead, it was their Mr. Roboto and nearly destroyed the band - and the brand. It just sounds like more Kiss music, which like usual, is okay at best with moments of excellence sprinkled in sparingly. It’s not to say that rock doesn’t have its place for nerdy music - Rush and Weezer are prime examples. Sadly, the vision far out-stripped the reality – the likes of Just A Boy and The Oath sounded like a bunch of brickies trying to be Andrew Lloyd Webber. Some nice guitar work. But now that I have, I can say it is not as bad as its reputation. I think it’s superb. I wish I knew, because the massively downtuned bass and creepy vocal delivery by Simmons make it my favourite song. I Lyrics: 9. Blackwell”. Blackwell”? Overall it’s not the worst album out there. This album is completely different from KISS' older albums. I bought Unmasked myself, but missed most of that 3-4 year post Alive II window until I bought Lick It Up on cassette. Since the album did so poorly, the never released it and currently no one knows who has that video. Just a Boy Lyrics: 2. I really don't understand why some people hold this album in such esteem. I am not sure why on Odyssey. Kiss the elder - Die ausgezeichnetesten Kiss the elder auf einen Blick! I think the thing that upset people most is that it's not a 'Kiss' album. The album was ‘The Wall”. For me, only 4 songs are keepers. Then we get the one Ace song, “Dark Light”. KISS - Music From The Elder (1981, 1997 remaster) Exit Peter Criss. Secondly, and this was quite a glaring hole to me, most of the songs sound half finished and quite.. limited in composition, with some awful lyrics. By 1981, Kiss were in chaos. It is dark and a little eerie. Genre: Hard Rock. And nice to see Eric get a moment as well. It has Ace’s guitar sound prominently on it. I shifted loyalties to expanding my interest to other groups and began a life-long music affair with rock music. This album is also significant as it would be the last album Ace Frehley would appear on…musically until the MTV Unplugged album. Unlike some fans I was not turned off by the Dynasty and Unmasked albums. Kiss has done some fantastic albums over the years. Reading my take on “Music From the Elder,” we are pretty much in agreement on this one. I like “I” a lot. Auf welche Faktoren Sie bei der Wahl Ihres Kiss the elder Acht geben sollten. Great writing and research. Music from the Elder (German Version) Odyssey: The definitive examination of … The album was a gatefold and inside was another medieval looking table and chairs with a candle in the middle. A review of the 1981 release from KISS - Music from The Elder. More than 30 years later, "Music From The Elder" has attained a cult-classic status among a segment of diehard KISS fans. I've certainly heard worse things. I’m not a huge fan of Kiss, so I’ve never really even considered it. There were more songs I like then I remembered and I don’t think it is as bad as everyone says or thinks. I think, with the original lineup, Gene Simmons generally accomplished his goal of creating the Beatles of hard rock. Anyway, The Odyssey bravely follows unto the breach of the unbelievers, with dramatic hammered pianos, sweeping strings and a very important Paul Stanley once again as the Chief of Theatrical Operations. Quite frankly, this entire album was too ambitious. Das Team hat im genauen Kiss the elder Test uns die empfehlenswertesten Artikel verglichen sowie die brauchbarsten Informationen aufgelistet. (Well they tried disco! Actually sung by Gene and a song the band has been known to play in their acoustic sets. There is a nice bass groove on it and Paul shares some vocals in it for a verse to tie in the storylines. Worauf Sie als Kunde bei der Wahl Ihres Kiss the elder Aufmerksamkeit richten sollten! View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1981 Gatefold Vinyl release of (Music From) The Elder on Discogs. Then comes “Fanfare” which actually should’ve led the album. Imagine what The Elder could have been if Ace’s vision had been a bit more accepted! There is a huge chorus here, with mighty men belting out assertive statements about oaths and sacrifice. Pepper,” says Kiss bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons of his band’s greatest folly. Same style and fills, but obviously with the correct swagger and drive. “Every year we get requests for an Elder tour,” Simmons laughs. Gene actually plays bass and rhythm guitar on it and does a great job. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Ach, shoot me down if you like. “So we decided to bring Bob Ezrin back.” Ezrin had produced Kiss’ hit 1976 album Destroyer; more recently, he’d worked on Pink Floyd’s mega-selling The Wall. Pretentious? And the back cover was the rest of the door. Amid this instability, Simmons and guitarist/vocalist Paul Stanley were uncertain of what kind of record Kiss should make after two pop-oriented albums – 1979’s Dynasty and 1980’s Unmasked – had alienated many fans. Finale. I recall wondering if there was a movie called The Elder since this was Music From "The Elder". The thought of hard rock album wasn’t enough. “We didn’t know which direction to go,” admits Simmons. Wir haben es uns zur Aufgabe gemacht, Produktvarianten jeder Variante zu testen, dass Sie zu Hause schnell den Kiss the elder auswählen können, den Sie für gut befinden. I give them props for thinking outside the box, execution wasn’t perfect. Nummers "Fanfare" (Paul Stanley, Bob Ezrin)"Just a Boy" (Stanley, Ezrin) I snagged the vinyl and added it to all my other Kiss albums. Sämtliche in der folgenden Liste getesteten Kiss the elder sind jederzeit auf amazon.de im Lager und dank der schnellen Lieferzeiten in kürzester Zeit vor Ihrer Haustür. This is the stuff that Spinal Tap was based on. Kiss is juist een band die het moet hebben van simpele rech toe recht aan rock&roll en de show uiteraard. Wider den Sieger kam keiner an. You can find a loyal geeky contingent online and in the darker regions of KISS-dom that sing its praises. Kiss – ‘Music From The Elder’ (1981) – Album Review (The Kiss Review Series) Published on October 15, 2020 October 14, 2020 by 2loud2oldmusic Kiss came off a very successful Australian Tour thanks to Unmasked and the song “Shandi” being huge hits in that country, but in the States, Kiss had floundered significantly. Alcohol and drugs were destroying the band from within: drummer Peter Criss had been replaced by Eric Carr, and guitarist Ace Frehley’s behaviour was becoming ever more erratic. Then the disco song. 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I suppose this crap-sterpiece of an album deserves better now, in retrospect. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. Peter Criss was no longer in the band, their music was no longer rock and things looked pretty dire for them. Escape From The Island is a rip-snorting instrumental and I coulda shoulda woulda been a classic Kiss anthem – if it were on a different album. Niks concept diepliggende gedachte. Roland Bearne: Well, gave it a spin this morning for the first time in a good 20 years and I thought it was terrific! It is actually a decent opening track as it does rock out and is quite heavy. From the opening Fanfare with its cheesy medieval tone we move to what can only be described as a pomp rock song Just a Boy which is admittedly alright. They set out do make a 'grown up' album, with no teen anthems and innuendo, which is why a lot of Kiss fans hated it. They get points for stepping out of their comfort zone and some of the songs are pretty good. I would have hard time telling you this in my own words so I will use the synopsis from Wikipedia. Although the album was a little all over the place, it was went out with a bang. It seems vital to the story-line, but I forgot my 80’s Rock Opera Decoder Ring in my other Kiss lunch box, so we will unfortunately be none the wiser. The band was missing. As an individual track, not good at all.